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Posted by Steve Bender, February 24, 2009 in Timely Tasks , Trees and Shrubs

What concerns people most in the country right now? Losing their jobs? Losing their retirements? Nope. It's how to properly prune their crepe myrtles Here's a step-by-step guide showing how the Grumps prunes his.

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Why do you need my advice? Because a lot of you take guidance from your ignorant neighbors neighbors, who prune their crepe myrtles to look like this.

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This is what I call "crepe murder." I didn't invent the term. I think it was coined by Byers Nursery, a big wholesale grower of crepe myrtles in Huntsville, Alabama. I just did what we Americans have always done so well -- pass off other's good ideas as your own.

Crepe murder is bad for several reasons.


1. It turns beautiful trees into ugly stumps.


2. It prevents the formation of pretty, mottled bark on maturing trunks.


3. A forest of skinny, whip-like shoots sprouts from the end of each ugly stump. These whips are too weak to hold up the flowers, so the branches often bend to the ground, like a drunk who's about to lose his lunch.

Another reason people butcher crepe myrtles is because they say their plants get too big. All that this means is that these cretins chose the wrong plant for the wrong spot. Most popular crepe myrtles ('Natchez,' 'Miami,' 'Sioux,' 'Dynamite,' Muskogee,' 'Watermelon Red') grow at least 25-30 feet tall. So plant them out in the yard -- not in front of your bay windows. Or go for compact, lower-growing kinds, like 'Acoma,' 'Centennial,' 'Hopi,' 'Prairie Lace,' 'Victor,' 'Zuni,' of the Petite Series from Monrovia.

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The crepe myrtle you see above is deep-pink 'Miami.' I planted it in my front yard from a 3-gallon pot 15 years ago. I never pruned it much, because I strung it with tiny Xmas lights that I never took down. Leaving them on the tree reduced my Xmas decorating each year to 10 seconds. All I had to do was plug in the lights before Xmas and unplug them after. You could learn from this.

However, not being able to prune without cutting the light cords meant my crepe myrtle grew too dense and spread too wide. So last week, I took off the lights. Then, aided by my lovely unseen wife who agreed to take pictures, I finally pruned it to show you how it's done and how a mature crepe myrtle is supposed to look. Murderers, take note!

Here is the crepe myrtle before I started. It doesn't look too bad, but needs thinning. The tool leaning up against it is my trusty pole pruner. I like it because you can extend the pole to cut branches more than 15 feet from the ground.

Objectives

Before you prune anything, it's agood idea to know what you're trying to accomplish. After all, you can always go back and cut more. You can't go back and cut less. My objective was to maintain well-spaced, main trunks with handsome bark and to thin out out the center to permit easy penetration of sunlight and air. I always say if a bird can easily fly through the center of your crepe myrtle, the branches are spaced about right. If a bird can easily fly through the center of your house, you're probably missing some windows.

Pruning Tools

To properly prune a mature crepe myrtle, you need 3 tools.

1. Hand pruners to clip twigs and branches less than 1/2-inch thick.

2. Loppers to cut branches 1/2-inch to 1-1/2 inches thick

3. Pole pruners or a pruning saw to cut branches more than 1-1/2 inches thick.

When to Cut
Late winter (right now) is the best time to prune a crepe myrtle, because it's leafless and you can easily see all of the branches. It also blooms on new growth, so pruning now won't reduce blooming. In fact, it may increase it.

What to Cut

Remove branches in the following order.

1. Suckers coming up from the base.

2. All side branches growing from the main trunks up to a height of at least 4 feet.

3. All higher branches growing inward towards the center of the tree.

4. All crossing, rubbing, and dead branches.

5. Branches growing at awkward angles that detract from the tree's appearance.

Always cut back to a larger branch of the trunk. Don't leave stubs. Removing seedheads on the end of branches is optional. Leaving them doesn't reduce blooming. I leave mine.

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The Finished Product
Below is the result of this year's pruning. Isn't it purty? The crepe myrtle is still a little denser than I would like, but I can prune it again next winter. Every year, the job gets easier.

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More Crepe Myrtle Stuff

If your appetite for all things crepe myrtle still isn't sated, you can read more brilliant commentary from the Grump about their care by clicking here. And Helen Yoest, author of "Gardening with Confidence" has a good discussion of crepe murder on her blog, which you can read by clicking here.

Comments

Let's say I have a friend who has commited crepe murder. What should that friend do to reverse the damage? Should the nobby parts from previous murders be trimmed off in some way?

P.S. The friend is really me and I have also made the mistake of planting a 'Natchez' too close to the house, but I'm dealing with it.

Posted by:Molly Weber | February 25, 2009 at 04:54 AM

Believe it or not, crepe murder is reversible. The process takes about 3 years. Here's what to do.

1. Prune off all the knobs of the ends of the branches.

2. A number of new shoots will then sprout from the pruned ends. Select one of these (two at most) to remain. Remove the others.

3. Next winter, remove any other little branches that sprouted near the bases of the selected shoots.

4. Keep this up and within several years the branches above the old cuts will be as thick as the branches below and your sin will be forgiven.

You see can photos of this process if you click on my crepe myrtle care link at the end of this story and look at the story called "Stop! Don't Chop!"

If your 'Natchez' is too big to move, my advice is to remove all side branches up to a height of 6 feet or more, so that the majority of the canopy is above the first-floor windows. You can also thin out the main branches even more than I did with mine to let more light through.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | February 25, 2009 at 06:49 AM

Good advice Grumpy. I cringed when I saw the first photo. Sure got my attention!
Helen Yoest

Posted by:Helen @ Gardening With Confidence | February 25, 2009 at 07:54 AM

You mean the first photo with me? It's lens distortion -- makes my legs look like they're 2 feet long. Trust me -- I'm kinda normal looking.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | February 25, 2009 at 08:16 AM

Hey Grump...I planted the smaller white crepe myrtles on my bank that faces the west. Although they get several hours of afternoon sun..I am afraid they are not getting enough sun to bloom. How many hours of sun do they require?

Posted by:Jean | February 25, 2009 at 08:51 AM

They need exactly 3 hours and 47 minutes of sun each day. Give or take a couple of hours and whether they get full, deep shade at other times or 44% sun and 56% shade. You must also consider when the moon is in the 7th House and Jupiter aligns with Mars. Then peace will guide the planet and love will steer the stars. THIS IS THE DAWNING OF THE AGE OF AQUARIUS........

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | February 25, 2009 at 12:35 PM

Sorry, Jean, just trippin' there.....these flashbacks come more and more often. The answer to your question is that generally the more direct sun a crepe myrtle gets, the more flowers you get. I'd say they need at least 6 hours of good sun a day. But they'll tell you if they're getting enough. If they don't bloom, you know they need more.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | February 25, 2009 at 02:44 PM

I think they have spoken..

Posted by:Jean | February 26, 2009 at 03:28 AM

Dear Grumpy, I belong to a Garden Club that thinks the only way to garden is to commit "crepe murder" and promotes "better gardening through chemistry". Any suggestions I can take to them?

Posted by:Organic Jeannie in Memphis | February 26, 2009 at 07:44 AM

Well, send me their photos and pictures of their yards and I will post them here on my Wall of Shame. How about that? 'Course, you won't be too popular after that, but your sacrifice is necessary and appreciated! I would also point out to them that as members of a "garden club," they are supposed to lead the public, not follow. Ritually butchering crepe myrtles every year is ignorant. So is drowning the yeard in pesticide before you see a problem. I propose your rename your group "The Ignorant Garden Club of Memphis."

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | February 26, 2009 at 10:39 AM

Hey! That first picture looks exactly like my neighbor's yard. The same neighbors who chicken wired and topped off the knock-out rose bed with some kind of netting. You know, Grumpy, you never really gave me an adequate answer on that one. They said it was necessary to keep the rabbits from eating the roses. Honestly, do rabbits eat knock-out roses?
Holly

Posted by:hhmuller | February 26, 2009 at 11:25 AM

You find Grumpy inadequate? Oh Lord, you sound just like my wife! I've never seen rabbits munching on Knockouts, but I suppose it's possible, at least the foliage close to the ground. Deer, on the other hand, would probably gobble Knockouts with great relish. Mustard too.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | February 26, 2009 at 02:01 PM

I wish I had Crepe Myrtle to prune :(

Posted by:joey | February 26, 2009 at 02:12 PM

I would like to suggest that Jean (not my Jeannie) has a problem: any one who would plant their crepe myrtle tree in their bank does not understand that most banks are better at producing monthly statements than trees. Recently, I have not noticed much bloom on my deposit. This is just an opinion, but I am willing to stand corrected.

Posted by:Husband of Jeannie, member of the Ignorant Garden Club of Memphis | February 26, 2009 at 04:27 PM

I can't argue with you there. If your crepe myrtle does not bloom, it is earning a very low rate of interest and is in need of a federal bail-out.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | February 27, 2009 at 03:51 AM

Husband of Jeannie...I must agree and say the bank also produces ways to reduce your deposits too.
My little bank produces voles who eat everything in sight.Could we say its a lot like the regular banks?

Posted by:Jean | February 27, 2009 at 04:12 AM

I don't know. If you're slow to water, do you get stuck with a late fee?

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | February 27, 2009 at 08:46 AM

Would you please send this story out on the AP Wire so that everyone will be informed?

My myrtles are shaping up pretty well. Two really send up the suckers more than the other one. Glad to hear that you leave the seeds. I do that and the birds just love them. Of course, I have found a few baby myrtles around the garden.

Cameron

Posted by:Cameron (Defining Your Home Garden) | February 27, 2009 at 03:12 PM

Thanks for setting us straight. I think your legs look just fine too. My three year old Zunis are just about large enough, taller than me with nicer branching, for a little pruning. I was going to cut the seedheads off but like the way they look. Good to know they can be left on without diminishing the blooms. The bark is starting to peel nicely too. I think the bird flying through is a good standard to live by. Although one did fly into the house, a silly female cardinal through a door opened by the cat who can do such things. Quite an ordeal to get her out too, as you might imagine.
Frances at Fairegarden

Posted by:Frances | February 28, 2009 at 03:25 AM

We must form a grassroots effort to act on this cause immediately. Create a flier from this blog and distribute it as widely as possible (or at least to those houses that you drive by regularly...) Some ideas for distribution: (1)paper airplanes, (2)fold into those origami birds and hang from the ugly stubs of murdered myrtles, (3)if you have access to a plane, carpet whole neighborhoods propaganda-style. Some research into littering fines and/or Special Ops or similar experience may be helpful.

Posted by:chathamcorabbit | February 28, 2009 at 10:11 AM

We must form a grassroots effort to act on this cause immediately. Create a flier from this blog and distribute it as widely as possible (or at least to those houses that you drive by regularly...) Some ideas for distribution: (1)paper airplanes, (2)fold into those origami birds and hang from the ugly stubs of murdered myrtles, (3)if you have access to a plane, carpet whole neighborhoods propaganda-style. Some research into littering fines and/or Special Ops or similar experience may be helpful.

Posted by:chathamcorabbit | February 28, 2009 at 10:21 AM

FYI

Posted by:jERRY sELF | February 28, 2009 at 09:11 PM

Good point on the birds, Cameron. A lot of people don't know how much finches and other seed-eating birds like crepe myrtle seeds. And the super-sensitive Grump naturally loves birds. As for the brain-dead oafs who chop their crepe myrtles each year, I suggest you all Google Earth their yards, print out leaflets of the offender's yard, and post them on all street corners. Second-offenders will have to wear a scarlet "CM" on their clothes. Harsh? I think not.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | March 01, 2009 at 06:42 AM

Grumpy,
I have meticulously followed your crepe myrtle trimming guidelines for 2 years, my branches are lovely, but my CM still gets very tall shoots with very small blooms late in summer, not impressive. 3/4 day sun--is it a fertilizer thing?

Posted by:Susie Cross | March 08, 2009 at 07:02 AM

Ok, I am completely new to gardening. I have never really tried before but I moved to a new home in the south and it has plants that need taken care of. One of them...a Natchez Crepe Myrtle. A friend says she thinks its dead because it has not bloomed yet but it is still green throughout the branches. How can I tell if it is alive? Oh, and it is very small still so do I need to prune it much if it is alive? Thanks!

Posted by:April Miller | March 24, 2009 at 06:19 AM

Crepe myrtle blooms in summer, not spring, so that's not a worry. To tell if it's alive, do the "scratch test." Use your fingernail or a knife to scratch the bark on a branch. If there's a green layer under the bark, the plant is alive. As far as pruning, you don't have to do very much at this point, because the plant is so small. Once it grows larger (5-6 feet or so), select 3-5 shoots to become the main trunks and prune off the others at the ground. Remove all side branches as the plant grows up to a height of 4-5 feet.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | March 24, 2009 at 12:02 PM

I purchased 3 natchez crape myrtles to plant in the front of my house. I want to plant 2 closer together on one corner and the other on the other corner how far away from the house should I plant them and the two I put beside each other should be how far apart.

Posted by:Linda in Louisiana | March 25, 2009 at 01:40 PM

I think it might be too late for our crepe myrtles. I'll be sure to do better next year. Thank you Grumpy!

Posted by:Claire | March 26, 2009 at 12:38 PM

Susie,
I don't think fertilizer is the problem. Crepe myrtles that are cut back hard have larger flower clusters that ones that aren't, but the branches that hold them are usually too weak to stand up straight. Keep with the program just a little while longer and see if you don't get more blooms this year.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | March 26, 2009 at 12:46 PM

Linda,
I hope you have a big house, because 'Natchez' gets big -- at least 30 feet tall in Louisiana, unless you're planning on cutting it down to 6 feet every spring (please don't do that). I wouldn't plant it any closer than 10 feet from the house and I'd leave at least 10 feet between them.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | March 26, 2009 at 12:50 PM

Grumpy,
I have a fungus that has developed on a couple of my crapes. I live in south La.. Should I do anything to the trees or just 'grin and bear it'?

Elliot

Posted by:Elliot Dore | March 29, 2009 at 04:38 PM

Is the fungus on the leaves? What does it look like?

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | March 30, 2009 at 07:24 PM

Hello - moving into a house soon, and unfortunately, they've butchered a 30-year old myrtle and some younger ones too. I don't know if they can be saved. They also hacked some camillas while they were at it. Can I share pictures and get some assistance?

Thanks!

Posted by:Gabrielle Morrow | April 03, 2009 at 05:12 PM

But of course. The experts in Grumpiana live for such requests.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | April 04, 2009 at 06:58 AM

Help..I don't have a way to upload the photos..

Thanks-
Gabrielle

Posted by:Gabrielle Morrow | April 19, 2009 at 05:40 PM

Enter "Stop Don't Chop" in the search box at the top of this post and you'll be directed to a story that tells what to do to save a butchered crepe myrtle.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | April 20, 2009 at 10:00 AM

I have an ornamental Peach Tree that is 99% dead. It is located at the corner of my shade garden, and I need something to replace it that will provide shade right away. However, the Peach is diseased, and I thought I might grow a tree in a pot for a couple of years before planting in the same spot. What tree would you suggest? Thanks for your input. Just found your site today, 6/3/09

Posted by:Shelia Linder | June 03, 2009 at 05:15 PM

Congratulations on having a peach tree that is only 99% dead. Most of them are 100% dead. Before I suggest another tree, can you tell me where you live?

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | June 05, 2009 at 01:13 PM

I've been growing crepe myrtles in the front yard for 10 years and do not know how to prune them. Your tips are great, but what do I do with a branch that only has greenery and blooms only part way up? Is the branch dead where the blooming ends, and should I cut it off? This only happens on my purple-magenta crepes (miniatures). What does this mean and what should I do?

Posted by:Barbara Hodge | June 14, 2009 at 12:24 PM

Sounds like those branch tips are dead. Prune them back to the leaves and flowers.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | June 15, 2009 at 04:43 AM

Is there a difference in a crepe myrtle bush and a crepe myrtle tree? Or, are they the same and its all in the pruning of it? I see them at the garden store and thay look like a 3 ft. bush.

Posted by:sandy | June 25, 2009 at 04:06 PM

There are tree crepe myrtles and bush crepe myrtles. You have to look on the tag and check what the mature height is going to be. For example, some grow 30 feet tall. Others grow 3-4 feet tall. If you tell me the names of the ones you're looking at, I'll tell you how big they should get.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | June 26, 2009 at 08:28 AM

I have a 2-story house with a west side with no windows. I would like to plant natchez crepe myrtle in a row. I Know they grow so large in Texas and the deep south, but I have not seen any that large here in mid-Oklahoma. Do you think that would work well and how far out from the wall should they be planted?
I now have a row of large red-tip photinia that continue to get fungus problems. I am going to remove them and want something tall a pretty. I love the Natchez look, but I do not want to make a huge mistake.

Posted by:Peggy | June 27, 2009 at 07:02 AM

I would not plant them any closer than 10 feet from the house. As they grow, you can remove lower limbs so you can get around them, but still keep the taller ones for shade. If you have a choice, plant them 15 feet from the house. They do get big, but will give you quick shade.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | June 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM

I have a Crepe Myrtle which I have apparently been murdering for 10 years or so. Since I live in Texas, I am concerned about my future! I have a couple of pictures showing a very healthy tree but very little blooms. It gets plenty of sun. I would like for it to bloom more obviously. Any suggestions? Also how can I upload pictures to this site?

Posted by:Reid in Texas | July 03, 2009 at 09:36 AM

Relax, Reid, there is still hope. Crepe myrtles are tough plants and can take a lot of abuse and come back. You just need to do some restorative pruning this winter. You can send me photos by clicking the "Ask A Question" link in the "About This Blog" box at the top of the page.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | July 04, 2009 at 07:06 AM

I planted 7 Crepe Myrtle's 3 years ago. The first year,they bloomed their hearts out. sence then nothing.new growth,healthy leaves,6 to 8 hours of direct sun.Sandy soil.Should I change ph, apply like a 13-13-13 fertlizer? help please

Posted by:Charles Boes | July 07, 2009 at 06:27 AM

How big are they? Where do you live?

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | July 07, 2009 at 04:57 PM

I live in Mobile Alabama,or just west of mobile just north of Interstate 10 They are the shrubs about 4 foot I purchased them at Lowes Garden center

Posted by:Charles Boes | July 07, 2009 at 06:45 PM

If they're only 4 feet tall after three years, they must be dwarf types. Unless they have mildew problems, I can't think of any reason they'd fail to bloom. Give fertilizing with the triple-13 a try. It couldn't hurt.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | July 08, 2009 at 08:53 AM

I had a nice, mature 15 foot or so crepe myrtle in my front yard until Hurricane Ike came through last September. The tree broke at the roots and fell over so we got rid of it with the other down trees. Now, all of the roots have grown into 3 foot stalks. There are probably 30 stalks or more. For now it just looks like a nice bush, but I can tell this is going to get out of hand. What is the best way to manage these plants?

Thanks for any advice.

Posted by:Lisa in Texas | July 13, 2009 at 07:00 AM

I bought a miniature crepe myrtle (Razzle Dazzle) spring of 2008 and planted it in a container. It grew beautifully, but never bloomed in a location with about 5 hours direct sun. It got hit hard with a late frost this spring so I had to prune it way back and I also moved it to a location where it now has about 9 hours of direct sun. Again, it is thriving and full but not one bloom. Do I need special fertilizer because of the container? All my other big crepe myrtles are loaded with blooms. Bedford, Tx

Posted by:Shan | July 13, 2009 at 02:48 PM

Lisa,
Crepe myrtles are great, but they have one flaw. If you cut one down or cut into its roots, it responds by sending up suckers from the roots. Lots of them. The only advice I can give is to select 4-5 suckers to become the new trunks and keep cutting off the others or spray the suckers with Roundup to kill them and then plant a new crepe myrtle.

Shan,
Can't tell for sure why your Razzle Dazzle isn't blooming by now. The winter damage may have delayed it a bit. Give it some Miracle-Gro fertilizer this week and again in two weeks and see if you can't get some flowers.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | July 15, 2009 at 01:47 PM

I have four 7' crepe myrtles in a bed I want to raise about 8 to 9 inches. Do I need to dig up the crepe myrtles and replant or can I just raise the level of the bed?

Posted by:Allyson | July 18, 2009 at 05:11 PM

If you're asking, "Can I cover the ground under my crepe mrtles with 9 inches of new soil?", I'd say you're taking a risk. Most of their feeder roots -- the really important ones -- are near the surface. Covering them with that much soil could smother them. So if I were you, I'd dig the crepe myrtles this fall when they're dormant, add the soil, and then replant.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | July 19, 2009 at 05:59 AM

Is there a way to definitively identify a type of Crepe Myrtle? I put two in front of my house a few years ago, and recently lost a large tree and have an opening for a matching crepe myrtle. The orginal plants were not identified correctly when I purchased them. They are upright vase-shaped (quite narrow) with coral flowers and dark green leaves. the barks is just now beginning to peel and appears very light gray/green/beige.

Posted by:Elise | July 20, 2009 at 12:23 PM

What I'd do is cut off a branch with flowers on it, put it in water, and take it around to local nurseries to see if they're selling the same color. I could guess that they're 'Potomac,' but that's just a shot in the dark.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | July 20, 2009 at 12:53 PM

Hello, I have small Natchez Crape Myrtle that I started from seeds that fell from my tree I would like to know what I need to do to them as far as prunning goes.This year is the first year they have flowered but seem very wide almost shrub like not very far from the ground.Any advice would be great.Thanks,Jim

Posted by:Jim Kirn | July 24, 2009 at 03:50 PM

Hi Jim,
Turning 'Natchez' into a tree isn't difficult. Let it grow undisturbed this summer. This winter, select 1-3 shoots to become main trunks and prune off others at the ground. Remove all side branches from these shoots. Keep this up for 3-4 years and you'll have your tree.

Posted by:Grump Gardener | July 25, 2009 at 08:00 AM

my crepe mrtles are dead at top and have a lot of shoots from the bottom and middle. are the tops dead? maryland

Posted by:melssa | July 26, 2009 at 02:09 PM

sorry...what I mean is...do I wait or cut the branches back? Ths will be sad ause it's a lot of branches and they were doing so well. The trees are three ears old and until now...beautiful!!!

Posted by:melssa | July 26, 2009 at 02:11 PM

M three year old crepes appear to be dead at top and have new shoots from root to mid tree. Do I trim it back, which would make it really small, or wait. They have no leaves up there. They were beautiful for two years!!!!

Posted by:melssa | July 26, 2009 at 02:13 PM

Hi, I have a crepe that i planted last year. It bloomed last year and this year it has so many huge flower bulbs that it weighs the branches to the ground! should I cut thost off when the flowers are all dead? Do I understand correctly that you may l;eave the dead floers be after they have finished blooming? What will happen to them? do they just fall off on their own adn will they rebloom? I'm really new to this and just love crepe myrtles and want to give them the best care bit i know nothing about gardening. in fact, i just bought 2 big lavender (supposedly) crepe trees but their leaves are smaller and than my smaller 2 year crepes and the trees are much bigger but with the smaler leaves they also have no blooms whatsoever. is it becuase of shock of being planted? thanks in advance for your help.

Posted by:phawn | July 27, 2009 at 12:23 AM

One more question (sorry to appear so ignorant but I am). So crepes that i planted last year are about 6 foot tall but skinny and not really what i would call a tree...like the 2 new ones i had planted just 2 weeks ago, the smaller creps with the huge flowers that are so heavy they weigh their branches to the ground (I've never seen anything like it) I'm at a lost as to what to do with the flowers once theyt die. I always thought that you had to cut then off? that if you did a new flower would bloom so I am totally confushed as so what happens to those round seeds after they bloom if you don't cut the off?

Posted by:phawn | July 27, 2009 at 12:30 AM

My fairly young Natchez (3 yrs in the ground - about 12 ft. tall) has flowers so large that they bend the spindly 4-5 ft. stalks nearly to the ground. It's worse once they have gone to seed. I try to tie them up to keep the stalks from becoming bowed and deformed, since these will become future branches. I have also, in the past, cut the flower heads off, which encourages dividing. Is this a bad thing to do (besides the fact that I lose flowers)? Does anyone have better suggestions?

Posted by:lalagigi | July 27, 2009 at 01:32 PM

I have a fairly tall (about 8 feet or so) white crepe myrtle in Fort Worth, Texas that I love with the exception of one thing...it has suckers. A lot of them...and I have to trim those babies back every few weeks because they look extraordinarily tacky covering up the thick branches of my crepe myrtle. Is there any way to get the suckers to stop growing without killing the whole tree?

Posted by:brandibug | July 28, 2009 at 08:07 AM

Sorry it's taken so long to respond, but I've been on vacation. Answers:

Melissa -- Cut your crepe myrtle back to live wood now.

Phawn & Lalagigi-- If you cut the round, green seedpods off now, your crepe myrtles will probably send out a second bloom. If you don't,they won't. The branches will become more sturdy and treelike if you don't cut them back by several feet each year. Just cut off the seedheads, but don't cut back the trunks.

Brandibug -- About the only thing I can recommend is rubbing your hand over the branches every so often to rub off new buds that will form suckers.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | August 09, 2009 at 05:25 PM

My neighbor has some Nachez crepe myrtle in pots and is giving them away to anybody who is willing to dig the holes in this heavy clay. All three of them have a single stem at the bottom which branches into two main trunks just above the ground surface. Should one of those stalks be cut off now while the trees are young (they are about 3-4 ft tall in the pots) or can they remain as they are with that Y at their base?

Posted by:Sandy | August 11, 2009 at 08:52 AM

Unless you prefer a crepe myrtle to have a single trunk, I'd plant them just the way they are. They are naturally multi-trunked.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | August 12, 2009 at 04:46 AM

We planted 3 Zuni crapes in June (live in Aiken, SC). All 3 were blooming, however, 1 Zuni has buds but no flowers. We have seen birds fly around, on, and off the plants. Are the birds eating the buds? Can we do something for the Zuni?

Help!!!

Posted by:paul | August 18, 2009 at 03:03 AM

I am reading all the questions and i have learned so much but I still have one question. I really like the tress with only one or two trunks is it ok to cut the others off? if so what is the best way to do so and would I see another trunk form? and when do you suggest doing this?

Posted by:lisa | August 18, 2009 at 06:30 PM

Yes, you can limit your crepe myrtle to two trunks or even one if you want. Cut the others off at the ground when the plant is dormant in winter. Suckers will sprout from the cut trunks, but you can cut them off as they appear and gradually they'll reduce in number.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | August 19, 2009 at 04:05 AM

I planted my cm about 3-4 years ago and this year they are thick and beautiful. However my neighbors and husband keep complaining bc I did not prune last year and they are growing everywhere (ex. over the sidewalk). I know its not time to prune but I am scared to do it myself. I would love to pay someone that knows what they are doing when it is time. Can you recommend anyone for this? I really love gardening but I am self taught and sick of hearing the complaining.

Posted by:Corrie | August 19, 2009 at 08:40 AM

You could call a landscape service to do it, but unless you watch them carefully, they'll undoubtedly butcher it, leaving a straight line of cut stubs. You might have them read the article above before starting the work and tell them you want it pruned that way. Then be there and watch when they do the work.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener | August 20, 2009 at 05:45 AM

I have 16 crape myrtle's planted about 5 yrs. ago. They are now 6' tall or more They have bloomed heavily once this season. I was told that they should bloom spring thru fall. I do fertilize regularly with Pennington Penngreen flower and vegetable 6-10-10. What else should I do? South central Texas area.

Posted by:Janice | August 23, 2009 at 02:39 PM

How long a crepe myrtle blooms depends on the variety you have. Some bloom for 100 days. Soime bloom for 60. Unless you have poor soil, I see no reason to feed them more than once or twice a year, preferably with a fertilizer formulated for trees and shrubs, not vegetables and flowers. One thing you can try to get them to rebloom this year is cutting off the green seedpods as they form.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | August 24, 2009 at 11:36 AM

my friend wants to get cuttings from my cm. Is this the proper way for her to get them to grow in her yard???

Posted by:confuised | August 26, 2009 at 06:13 PM

There are a couple of ways to propagate a crepe myrtle. The easiest is to transplant seedlings that will come up in garden beds all around it. You can root cuttings too, but it's too late in the year for that. Mid-June is a better time. Take a 6-inch cutting, strip off the lower set oif leaves, dip the cut end in rooting powder, and then stick it in a pot filled with moist potting soil.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | August 27, 2009 at 02:21 PM

My mom called this morning saying that the dying blossoms on her young crepe myrtles are causing the limbs to droop to the ground, and she fears the limbs will break. One website advised not cutting off the blooms this late in the year because the tree might die in winter's cold. I'd appreciate your opinion, Your Excellent Grumpiness. What should I advise my mom to do? Realize that I'll be hearing about it if my advice doesn't work, as she is also a grump. Thanks for your time.

Posted by:Liz | August 29, 2009 at 01:14 PM

I don't have a "mature crepe myrtle" to prune, but a tall (ca. 15 foot) single leggy stalk that somehow seeded itself and grew, unbeknownst to us, in a thicket of uncared-for but aggressive rose of sharon and other flotsam and jetsam.

I would like to get rid of everything but the crepe myrtle, and nurture it into something approaching a "real" crepe myrtle--beautiful. Is there any way to do this? Your pruning instructions are not intended for this sort of creature.

Thanks

Posted by:Susan Welsh | August 30, 2009 at 05:52 AM

Liz,
The weight on the branches is caused by the clusters of green seedpods that form after the flowers drop. Just cut off the seedpods. There will be no adverse effects.

Susan,
Once freed of its surrounding companions, your crepe myrtle will develop normally. So cut down and remove the rose-of-Sharon and other stuff. Then allow the remaining crepe myrtle to remain as a single trunk plant or naturally grow to have multiple trunks.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | August 30, 2009 at 07:58 AM

Hello,, I have a very large crepe myrtle that needs to be cleaned up.. Where can I send you a pic so you can tell me what you think I need to do.. I have some very large trunks that have crossed and are rubbing.. Should I remove one to the ground or what?

Posted by:steve | September 12, 2009 at 12:33 PM

I have a few crepe myrtles. I would like to plant many more. I am 76. What varities are fast growing and long blooming? I would like to live to see them bloom, I think they are so beautiful.Ten feet or taller. I live in Oklahoma.

Posted by:V. E. Crawford | September 12, 2009 at 02:04 PM

just planted a muskogee June of last year...I live in North Jersey...the tree bloomed in August. Last winter I cut off the seedlings....this year...no blooms...growth yes...but no blooms. Plenty of sun, we did have lots of rain this summer... I did not fertilize.. Am I doing something wrong????

Posted by:mark plage | September 14, 2009 at 06:46 AM

Before you prune it, email me a photo or two and I'll give you some
suggestions. GG

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 2:33 PM, wrote:

Posted by:Steve Bender | September 15, 2009 at 10:29 AM

Steve,
Before you prune it, email me a photo or two and I'll give you some suggestions.

Mark,
I'm guessing that the cool, rainy summer had an effect. Crepe myrtles like it hot. The weather could have delayed the bloom. As long as your plants keep growing, there is still a chance they'll bloom. Don't fertilize now. That won't help.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | September 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM

V. E.,

So you want some long-blooming, fast-growing crepe myrtle selections, huh? Very well. The Grump is generous with his knowledge. Try these:

1. 'Natchez' (white)
2. 'Centennial Spirit' (red)
3. 'Miami' (medium pink)
4. 'Muskogee' (lavender)
5. 'Potomac' (clear pink)
6. 'Dynamite' (red)
7. 'Sioux' (pink)
8. 'Zuni' (purple)

Don't plant them all on one day. We'd like to see you reach 77.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | September 15, 2009 at 10:46 AM

I've noticed some CM's blooming heavily and some blooming sparsely around town and I would like to know why is there such a difference from one to the next. Do you think it has to do with feeding, pruning or none of the above? Mine didn't bloom near as heavily as I would have liked this year. I don't prune or feed them much, just the dead tips in Spring when the new growth starts. My CM's have been in the ground for probably 10 years or so. I don't remember the varieties of most of them, one is called "Mandii' it's a dwarf hot pink. The others are very tall and a dark lavendar color. We've had a fairly cool wet summer this year here in Okiehomie.....
What is your opinion "Your Excellent Grumpiness"?

Posted by:Lauri in Guthrie Oklahoma | September 18, 2009 at 10:11 AM

Laurie,

The beneficent and compassionate Grump has good news for you. It's not your fault. The disparity in blooming between one crepe myrtle and the next is usually due to one of two things. One -- some crepe myrtle varieties just bloom longer and more heavily than others. Two -- weather definitely can play a role. Crepe myrtles like it hot, which is why Southerners derive such perverse pleasure in discovering that crepe myrtles hardly bloom at all in England.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener aka His Excellency | September 18, 2009 at 12:08 PM

Hi, I have what is described as a compact myrtle in my front yard, however, its overgrown and in the way...how do I prune this, when do I prune it, and can it be pruned TOO much...help...

Posted by:Lori | September 27, 2009 at 07:01 PM

Lori,

Yes, you can prune it and yes, you can prune it too much. Now isn't the time to prune though. Late winter is the best time. Even if it is a dwarf, you can prune it to basically the same shape as the big crepe myrtle shown above. Just follow the guidelines I've given.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener (aka His Excellency) | September 29, 2009 at 09:49 AM

My husband and I are considering planting a crepe myrtle so I stumbled upon this site for advice. I don't have a question (yet)... I just want to say how much I've enjoyed reading all the questions and responses. I've literally laughed out loud! I'll be back soon. Thanks for all the help, GG!

Posted by:Christina | October 23, 2009 at 11:33 AM

Dear Grumpy,

I don't know about you but here in Baltimore we had an early heavy(wet) snow fall on October 16, to be exact. The weight of it broke several large branches off of one of my myrtles which broke my heart. I was sickened dragging those beautifully colored limbs into the woods.
I digress. My current concern now is tending to three other myrtles that are approx. 20 ft. tall and bent over so profoundly that I was contemplating crepe murder. In my defense I didn't know it was a crime nor did I realize the ramifications until I came upon this site looking for advice about when and how to murder, er... prune etc. You have shown me the errors of my ways. Now I need advice on what exactly to do. The trees remain bent over, not broken, just very bent. I know from above that late winter is the time for pruning. So what to do, what to do. Thanx, PJ

Posted by:PJ | October 24, 2009 at 09:06 AM

PJ,

What can I say? Stuff happens. Looks like the snow has murdered your crepe myrtles for you. My experience is when crepe myrtle trunks get bent over this way, they don't straighten up. If you leave them like they are, side shoots will likely sprout from them and start growing upwards again. Another option -- prune back the bent trunks until they are basically standing straight. I know this sounds like cerepe murder, but it isn't, since you are doing it for a legitimate purpose. Many new branches will sprout from the ends of the cut trunks in spring. Remove all but one or two from each. Let only these new sprouts grow for the next three years and eventually you won't be able to tell the trunks were pruned.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener (aka His Excellency) | October 27, 2009 at 07:31 AM

Uh-oh. In the spring, I purchased and planted a beautiful Crepe Myrtle "shrub" that I bought in a nursery here in New York. Never having seen one before, I thought it would look beautiful under my window. Your site shows them as large as trees!! How do I keep it shrub-sized and still looking beautiful?

Posted by:F.R. | October 28, 2009 at 07:34 AM

F.R.,

There are lots of different kinds. Some kinds grow into trees. Some kinds become large shrubs. I don't know what kind you have, but I'm betting that because you bought it in New York, it's a shrubby type that takes cold weather. If so, using pruning shears to selectively shorten branches each winter should keep it from blocking the window.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener (aka His Excellency) | October 28, 2009 at 09:24 AM

When can you move a crepe myrtle from one site to another? If you can't prune until February, is it best to wait until then? Almost all my leaves are already off my CMs. Thanks!

Posted by:Joy | October 31, 2009 at 12:08 PM

It's not that you can't prune until February. It's just that all things being equal, February's an excellent time. In your situation, I see no reason why you can't transplant right now.

Posted by:Grumpy Gardener (aka His Excellency) | November 01, 2009 at 05:27 AM

THANKYOU Mr Grumpy,
I am no gardener, but I love mine. mmm peaceful, quiet,away from the crazy world.
I have a lot of crepe myrtles.Some are the shape I like..ie long trunk and full at the top.
Don't like it when they go from the bottom in a half moon
shape.
I am a Dancer/artist.I know NOTHING, but just my eye told me that the "crepe murder" that many "profesionals" perform is disgustingly ugly!

The rain upset two of my babies, and they started sprouting at the bottom, and not at the top, even though the others nearby grew perfectly!!
I hope they will grow better next year?
I took the sucklings off fast!!They didn't bloom much though, this year.

you make me laugh, so I don't believe you are a grump at all!!
Byeee
linda

Posted by:linda wells | November 06, 2009 at 11:25 AM

Oops! Forgot to check for typo's.Sorry....my gardening skills are even worse!
I'm British,so not only is my spelling all wrong, but plants that grew at home, don't grow here in the South.
It's a hard life!
How many hundreds of years does it take to learn "what to plant where?"

Posted by:linda wells | November 06, 2009 at 11:36 AM
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